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Rating: 3 out of 5 stars - GTR2: Realism Redefined - difficult driving sim
This game attempts to be a realistic driving sim and in my view it takes some of the fun out of the game. I anxiously awaited the game, but after trying it for a while, it made me reach for Colin Mcrae Rally 2005 with new appreciation.

I'll keep at GTR2, but with reduced expectations. I have a Logitech Momo force feedback wheel, which is essentially the only way you can sense whether you are overdriving the car. Unfortunately, there is no sensation through the wheel indicating that you are losing grip either by sound or by force feedback. Flooring the gas pedal can put you off the road, too, but without any accompanying sound warning you that you're breaking the tires loose and giving it too much gas. Of course, there is no force feedback coming through the pedals. The game seemed more frustrating than fun, but now that my expectations have been lowered maybe I'll enjoy it more the next time I try it.

October 18, 2008
This game was so frustrating I hardly ever play it. I read the comment on my first review and gave it another try. In a no time, I was cussing like a kid who just discovered swearing.

The problem with this sim, is that it gives you, allegedly, real world physics of driving a real race car, but you don't have the benefit of feeling those physics. Granted, my steering wheel isn't the $250 model, but it isn't a mouse, either.

I tried going through the driving school, to see if I could get up to speed that way. I found that as the program takes you up to speed before handing over the controls to you for your driving exercise, I had to have the wheel pre-cranked. Instead of the wheel transmitting a heavier feeling to synthesize g-forces, it gives you the feeling that your tie-rod is bent. Meaning, that you get a feeling of heaviness alternating with no resistance. The signals transmitted through the wheel are very confusing, or non-existent.

Then, while pressing the gas pedal, if you press it too much you'll lose traction and too much is very difficult to gauge. This by itself could be overcome, but combined with the steering challenges and you're in for some road rage instead of fun.

For those who excel at this game, I couldn't get past the final driving exercise in "combined hairpins - level 4" or "overtaking through a series of corners part 2." Forget about "circuit driving."

So, I'm going to get Colin McRae out and see if I can calm down. Right now, I want to smash something.

October 18, 2008

Okay, I'm back. I finally got smart and googled, "GTR2" and "forums" and found that there are some helpful hints for setting up your wheel, force feedback and the car.

Here are a few thanks to Spinelli at racesimcentral:

1. make sure ur Logitech Momo Racing drivers are up to date.

2. Play with the logitech profiler OFF, SHUT IT OFF, EXIT ETC

3. Go to Start->settings->control panel->game controllers, and make sure ffb is at 100 ( can change it if you like though), then make sure Damping and Spring are at 0 and centering spring is UN-checked and at 0
(although some ppl like it checked but still at 0, try it urself.)

4. In game, set it for "Momo racing" and im not talking about in the controls section, but in the actual FFB section. Thatll take care of the ffb effects, the reverse forces thing, etc etc. Dont change the ffb from 98 to 100, leave it at 98.

5. make sure your steering lock is not super high. In the garage ull see the option. Try something like 14.5 or so. Lower it if you want to turn UR wheel more to turn the games wheels the same. Jus make sure u dont lower it so much that at a corner you can turn UR wheel all the way and feel that you still have grip remaining and could turn harder if you could turn UR wheel more. In that case you would have to increase your steering lock in the garage. Try .5 or 1 incremnets.

6. In the steering sensitivity slider move it down from 50 to more like 45 or 42. People say well now its not linear, but with a Momo racing and its very limited lock it actually is more realistic and better feeling this way, try it. Ive heard people say do 45, then after getting used to it, do 40 get used to it and do 35 and keep it there, I think thats goin overboard as at 35 the second half of the wheels travel would be too sensitive. I used to use 45, I wanted to go lower but didnt wanna increase the latter part of the wheels travel sensitivity so I play on 42. (I think, 42 on RFactor for sure, GTR2 42, maybe 45 cant remember.)

7. If your still understeering then your jus simply going too fast, slow down more.





Rating: 4 out of 5 stars - Tough Game !
This is a tough game even with the G25 racing wheel. But fun as well as tough, like all of the games just a learning curve.



Rating: 4 out of 5 stars - Cool game
I had GTR, but it did not work when I built a new machine and put Vista on it. GTR2 works fine on Windows Vista. The only negative is that the online races are not compatible (apparently not too many have version 2). The UI is pretty slick graphically, but not standard like normal applications. Maybe it's just me cause I don't play many games. I don't yet have a steering wheel, but would recommend it. I'm using a joystick right now, and it is hard to control. The game has incredible realism. Even the various cars handle very different.



Rating: 5 out of 5 stars - Adjust it for better driving
For better steering, change the sensitivity on the slider on the setup screen. Put it way down low and you'll get better control of the steering wheel. Now I can drive like a pro.



Rating: 5 out of 5 stars - 100% buying it
im trying to decide if i should buy this or not,but bye looking at all the comments i think i might buy it


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