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Rating: 5 out of 5 stars - Despite battery compartment door, best bus calc ever produced
Those who have not tried this calculator will be amazed once you get good at using it (and it's easier than most other HP calcs). The only valid detraction I've read is about the battery compartment cover. After 12 years with it, I have to tape it down. The benefits FAR FAR FAR outweigh this little shortcoming. The built in calculation functions (and there are hundreds) are still almost all perfectly useful (except one or two). Any fuction that is not, can simply be added or modified. This is the most amazing thing: the simple programmability. You can add ANY function, any equation simple or complex, with multiple variables, save it, then just plug in the variable amounts and hit the button for the missing value and this machine gives you the answer. Just enter the equation from the text book, and the calculator automatically presents the variables on a menu for you to enter whenever you need, never needing to enter it again. You can also look at the equation, edit it if you want, but mostly you just use it to calculate stuff. It's like a mini Exec function machine. I even used it for DOCTORAL LEVEL statistics functions, and it was perfect for even those complex equations! I used it still. NO other calc does this, and it is the reason why it remains unsurpassed after 20years in production. Should be outlawed in the classroom, since it makes everything too easy.



Rating: 4 out of 5 stars - Battery door broken, love the calculator
Great calculator. But my battery door broke after 13 years! Totally ruined my day. :| (that and the fact that I was working on my taxes when I noticed it). Guess I will have to try tape to keep it together. Originally bought the 19bii while in an MBA program. It has been invaluable. Math, finance, and stats layout are excellent. Love the regression plotting. Alpha and PDA functions are too clunky. Never used them because they were not useful. From a math, finance, and stats perspective I LOVE this calculator and wish the physical design of the battery door was better.



Rating: 4 out of 5 stars - Great Calculator, worthless PDA
This calculator saved by [...] in college, empowering me to get my degree in Corporate Finance and International Economics. When I started my upper division classes, the Prof.'s insisted that their students get a financial calculator. Knowing that cash was tight, they pointed us to the low end calculator's like HP-12's and TI BA's. But when I looked at them, I was disappointed and apprehensive. Then I asked the Prof.'s, lecturers, and guest speakers which calculator they used, I found they used the HP 17's and HP 19's. That settled it for me. And the difference quickly became obvious compared to my classmates who bought the cheaper models.

I started out my junior semester trying to make do with my TI-89 Graphing calculator (an excellent machine) but inputting the formulas and programming the functions into the memory was not worth the effort and created poor results. The first time I failed to finish a 5-minute quiz was the last time I walked into a finance class without my HP-19BII.

Since graduating, I never approach a client or business meeting without the HP close at hand. It works every time and gives fast answers that I can rely on for accuracy and completeness of information.

During exams, the calculator gave me the edge and confidence I needed to excel in my course work. I often was among the first to finish and, as my confidence in the calculator increased, my ability to add to class discussions improved.

My HP has the battery compartment in the back, so I have not had the problems some of the other reviews mentioned. The PDA functions are my only real complaint. They are worse than useless and not worth the time to learn. The only advantage of the PDA part of this calculator is that the hinged keypad makes an excellent and very protective cover for the rest of the calculator. The bond, amortization, and IRR functions are superior to the HP-17 series as well. Even the TVM and conversion functions work better.

I dinged the calculator for making you pay for the worthless PDA functions just to add the protection of the hard keyboard cover. This is the one to get for finance professionals. Real estate tycoon want-a-be's should stick to the HP-12 so that they avoid the image problem of looking like a math geek. Just make sure that the math geek back at the office who makes your loan happen has one in his pocket.



Rating: 4 out of 5 stars - Right tool for the right job
If your looking for a machine that you can drop off a building, do sophisticated mathematics, or use as PDA, this isn't it. But if you're a financial profesional that wants a quick, user-friendly tool, it's hard to beat. Yes, my first 19BII disintegrated when it fell off my desk, and the battery door on my second one is held on by tape, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.

I still own a 12C (it's built like a tank), but trying to do any sort of TVM or cash flow analysis without the benefit of the menus and displays of the 19BII is stone age. Adding a platinum face plate doesn't make the 13 any more sophisticated or easier to use.

I also own a 17BII. The 17 has many of the same menu-driven funtions as the 19 (including the Solver function that allows you to create your own multi-variable formulas and solve for the single missing one), it's cheaper, and is more readily available, but the 17 lacks three things: (1) where 19 has alpha keys for entering formulas in the Solver function, appointments, labels, etc. the 17 uses inefficient, multiple key strokes akin to spelling things on your telephone; (2) the 19 has three-line display vs. one line on the 17, which is helpful when reviewing input and viewing output (e.g. loan amortization); and (3) the 19 has a handy section that converts various length, area, volume, mass, and temperature measurements that is missing on the 17 (maybe you don't need to know that 3.6 acres = 1.46 hectares or 4.25 liters = 143.71 fl. oz., but when you do it's right there).

And for those who think the 19 isn't well built, the cheap feel of the keys on the 17 won't turn you on either.

Complicated cash flows or amortizations where you need a print-out are definitely better done in Excel, but I still use my 19 regularly to double check that Excel isn't pulling in some strange cell.

If you're looking to buy a 19, make sure to find out if it's a newer model with the battery door on the back of the unit (vs older ones that are on the side). The side doors were (and still are) prone to pop off, creating a risk of losing the door itself, the batteries (which aren't cheap), and the information stored in the machine (biggest loss is usually your Solver formulas).

If HP wants to put out a 19BIII, I'll buy one. In the meantime, I just pray that the tape continues to hold . . .



Rating: 4 out of 5 stars - Great for business and MBA
Great device!
The best that I've had. Unfortunately, the battery cover is too fragile and broken.
The worst thing is that now this model from HP is discontinued


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